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r/soccer World Tour \#2 - Thailand - Thai Premier League
2020.09.19 16:15 SupSirir/soccer World Tour \#2 - Thailand - Thai Premier League
Brief History The Thai League is one of the newer leagues on our continent. We had our official league format since 1996, but it was not until 2009 that we founded the Thai League Co.,Ltd to comply with the international standard. Before all of this we had had our oldest cup, Kor Royal Cup, in a usual cup format, since 1916. The Kor Royal Cup changed to the super cup format from 1999 to 2016, in which year we scrapped the tournament. If you look into our football history, you’ll see a lot of clubs that were tied to companies, armies, or state enterprises. But since the 2000s, we have shifted toward teams that are tied to local communities. For example, Airforce United sold its right to participate in the league to Udon Thani FC, Bangkok Bank FC is now defunct, and Provincial Electric Authority FC is now named Buriram FC, etc. Only a few clubs like Police Tero and Port FC are still up and running in the top flight. While our history as a league is quite short, we still have some marks in continental football. In 1994 and 1995, Thai Farmers Bank FC (now defunct), won Asian Club Championship (now AFC Champions League). Unfortunately, apart from BEC Tero’s, now known as Police Tero, miraculous run to 02/03 AFC Champions League final, no team ever came close. Big Clubs’ History and Rivalries Buriram United, formerly named Buriram PEA, was founded in 1970. Buriram is located in the lower northeastern part of Thailand. Their homeground is Chang ARENA (Thunder Castle Stadium), the first stadium in Thailand that has no running tracks between the pitch and the stand, and is regarded as one of the best private-owned stadiums in Thailand. Since the inception of Thai League, they’ve won 7 league titles, 4 FA Cups, 5 League Cups, and have managed domestic treble three times in 2011, 2013, and 2015. 2015 is also one of their best seasons ever as they also finished the league invincible. Their main rival is Muangthong United. Muangthong United, or SCG Muangthong UTD, while their achievements pale in comparison with Buriram’s, they are still regarded as one of the biggest clubs in Thailand. With 4 league titles and 2 League Cups, they are one of the most successful clubs in the Thai League era. They once had an invincible season in 2012, the first ever in Thai football’s history. A bit of fun fact about Muangthong. In 2011-12, Robbie Fowler agreed to play for them. And after the sacking of Henrique Calisto, their head coach at that time, Fowler was made PlayeCoach at Muangthong. Another big club is Chonburi FC. Their trophy cabinet is quite small, having only 1 league title and 1 FA Cup to show, but mainly because they came second five times in the league. In all those five instances, either Buriram or Muangthong came first. Chonburi are on a decline recently. After they failed to win the league in 2014, finished second after the Champion, Buriram, by three points. They haven’t managed a top three finish since. You might say they are the Everton of Thailand, both are old legacy teams in mid table, wear blue shirts, and once had a connection through Chang Beer, so it’s quite fitting. These three were once rivals, but as Buriram dominated, the heated rivalries died down. Now, we still have some rivalries in the league, but mainly between the Ultras, casual fans still don’t feel those things much yet, as our football culture is not yet as strong as in Europe. I hope we will witness some strong rivalries again, right now some say Port FC vs Muangthong is quite big, but I personally don’t think they are gonna last. I hope I’m wrong. Also there might be some new big teams in a few years, because as of now, all three teams above are in mid table. Key Moments In all honesty, I don’t think there are that many memorable moments. Because since 2008, either Buriram or Muangthong have won the league, the only memorable moment for me would be last season's title race. The 2019 Thai League Title Race Standings before final game:
Buriram need to win their next away game against Chiangmai, while Chiangrai are hoping for an away win against Suphanburi and that Buriram draw/lose. Because Chiangrai have better H2H against Buriram, so if they are level, Chiangrai will win the league. Every Buriram hater is now cheering for Chiangrai. If Chiangrai win the league, this will be the first time in 2010s that Buriram have no trophies at the end of the season, and Chiangrai's first ever top flight win. Also Newin Chidchob, Buriram’s chairman, said that they would refuse to receive the Champion cup at the away stadium, and will require the FA to have the ceremony on a later date at their stadium only. As you can imagine, this sparked quite a controversy among Thai football fans, and now everyone wants a laugh. *Match Day 30, 26/10/2019* At the end of half time > Chiangmai 0 - 0 Buriram Suphanburi 1 - 1 Chiangrai At 48 min, William Henrique scores for Chiangrai > Chiangmai 0 - 0 Buriram Suphanburi 1 - 2 Chiangrai At 53 min, Nacer Barazite scores for Buriram > Chiangmai 0 - 1 Buriram Suphanburi 1 - 2 Chiangrai After that Chiangrai pulled through and would win comfortably 5-2 against Suphanburi, but Buriram are still winning and we have already entered the last few minutes of the game. Only the most hopeful would hope for a last minute goal from Chiangmai. But at the dying moment of the game, Caíque Lemes scored a header for Chiangmai and destroyed Buriram’s hope for their trophy. After the whistle, Chiangrai won the league on the merit of H2H, Buriram didn’t receive the cup at the away stadium as their chairman said. A fitting ending, at least for me. Current Season
As you can see, the big teams I mentioned above are not here, but the season just restarted so we might see some changes. Every team still has 24-25 more matches to play so anything can happen, some teams even sign new players during Covid lockdown. I really don’t know anyway for non-Thai speakers to follow the league, but if this has enough interest, I’ll post updates in the World Football thread. Sawasdee krub. **Previous posts in series**
2020.01.04 09:16 squizzlebizzleTeaching at local schools? How?
I really love Udon Thani and I want to find a way to move there. The only way I can manage getting a visa is if it is a work visa. I'm a fairly experienced international school teacher, I can teach English, there are not many schools in Udon Thani, there is one IB primary school, there are also a few universities, other than this it's all local Thai schools. But I have seen some job posts for local Thai schools in Udon Thani from years ago, so this indicates to me that these local schools ARE hiring people. but I've searched and searched on the internet and I couldn't find anything that's up to date or any systematic way of finding employment at a local school. I'm not worried about money, I am willing to work for Thai wages. So how do you do it? How do you find teaching work at local Thai schools (or universities)? Does anyone know?
2019.01.25 17:25 iraautemtempusQuestions About Living in Thailand's Isaan Region for Those With Experience
I am a 20 year old male from America, about to start my DN journey in a few days. Budget starting off will be about 1k - 1.5k $ per month. I planned on moving to Chiang Mai, but I am looking for more authentic and untouched options now. Naturally I've discovered tons about the Isaan region, and am interested in beginning my journey there, especially as it is even cheaper than Chiang Mai. But I am torn on which city or cities to settle down in first. I've done some research and comparisons between Udon Thani, Korat, khon kaen, and others, but there isn't much information and a lot of people have fiercely different opinions about each area. Some of my top priorities are walkability/public transportation, internet speed/reliability, healthcare, and nightlife. So which city/cities in Isaan would you recommend for a young 20 year old DN to stay in? Where has good internet and a quality nightlife scene? How would dating be for a guy my age? I keep reading that Isaan girls dream about finding a farang that can help them fund their dreams. I for one am not making enough money to be lending money like that...so is there a chance for me to date or will pretty much everyone be looking for an older and richer guy?
2018.11.03 08:08 kai229[Event] SEA Nazis pay for their crimes - Part One
A splash of cold water made the prisoner jolt, bloodshot eyes widening as the poor attempts at observing what’s in front of him fall short. Two figures stand in front of him, a small PRK coat of arms stamped in the upper part of the left sleeve, as the figure nears in, his features are more pronounced. The almond shaped eyes and sunburnt skin, a clean-shaven face with pockmarks and a small lesion in the sclera of the right eye. “I’m gonna ask you again.” Said the officer speaking Thai, with a thick Khmer accent. “What area of the People’s Republic of Kampuchea do you reside?” The man hesitatingly looked up, trembling, and muttered: “T-the outer labor camp of the PRK.” The words sounded like sweet whispers to the officer, who smiled gracefully. A mumble from beside the man made him look to his left, which prompted a desperate reaction as he witnessed a woman tied to a chair, the memories were quickly jogged as he reminded himself that it was his wife, the drug fueled haze made his entire mind foggy, all he wanted to do was get this over with. “What do you think, lieutenant? Guy’s ready?” The soldier asked to the overseeing soldier, who looked carefully in the man’s eyes. “Yeah.” He replied. The noise of the pistol being brought up was almost as sudden as the brutish bang, fading to black. October 5th, 2040. Supreme Court of the People’s Republic of Kampuchea. 09:35am “Attention, we are finally beginning the case. The People’s Republic of Kampuchea against Suriyawong Tantasatityanon, Nitithorn Lertkunakorn, Som Pinthong, Phinihan Singharattanapan and Natthapong Chirapaisarnsakul.” "The People’s Republic of Kampuchea, acting through the undersigned Khai Ponleak, Commissar of Counsel for War Crimes, duly appointed to represent the People's Government in the prosecution of war criminals, charges that the defendants herein and their inferiors, including Nawanthorn Cheenchamras, Paponthanai Juntasa, Kriangsak Trivisvavet and Chan Puthyrith, with having committed crimes against the peace, war crimes and crimes against humanity, and for having participated in a collective plan and conspiracy to commit crimes against peace, as defined by Control Council Law Number 10, as duly enacted by the Communist Party of Kampuchea Control Council on 10 January 2040. These crimes include the planning, preparation and initiation of unprovoked warfare and the invasion of other sovereign states. In so doing, they have also committed the crimes of murder, torture, forced deportation, enslavement into forced labor and the mistreatment of millions of persons; plunder of public and private property, wanton devastation, and the destruction of cities, towns, and villages; and other grave crimes as set forth in this Indictment on a widespread scale. " The persons accused as guilty of these crimes and accordingly named as defendants in this case are: SURIYAWONG TANTASATITYANON - Phon Ek (General of the Army); February 2031 to March 2038; Commander in Chief Army Group Command (P̄hū̂ bạỵchākār thh̄ār s̄ūngs̄ud k̄hxng klùm kxngthạph bk s̄ạ̀ng); March 2038 to November 2038. NITITHORN LERTKUNAKORN - Phon Ek (General of the Army); November 2029 to October 2030, Commander of the "Flying Eagle" Air Regiment; February 2033 to January 2035, Commanding General of Air Group (Xær̒ krúp); February 2036 to August 2038, Commander in Chief Air Fleet (Kxng reụ̄x xākāṣ̄). SOM PINTHONG - Phon Ek (General of the Army); September 2037, Commander in Chief 3rd Army; October and November 2037, Commander of East Thailand Defense Zone; November 2038. PHINIHAN SINGHARATTANAPAN - Phon To (Lieutenant General); November 2035 to August 2037, Commander in Chief Army Group Command; September 2037 to October 2037, Commander in Chief 8th Army; October 2037, Commander in Chief 2nd Army; October 2037 to May 2038, Commander in Chief East; May 2038, Commander in Chief 9th Army; June 2038, Military Commander Southern Thailand; October 2038 to November·2038. NATTHAPONG CHIRAPAISARNSAKUL - Phon To (Lieutenant General); November 2037 to November 2038. COUNT ONE - CRIMES AGAINST PEACE All of the defendants with diverse other persons, including the co-' participant, during a period of years preceding 8 October 2040, committed Crimes against Peace as defined in Article II of Control Council Law Number 10, in that they participated in the initiation of invasions of other countries and wars of aggression in violation of international laws and treaties, including but not limited to the planning, preparation, initiation, and waging of wars of aggression, and wars in violation of international treaties, agreements and assurance; The defendants held high military positions in Thailand and committed Crimes against Peace in that they were principals in, accessories to, ordered, abetted, took a consenting part in, were connected with plans and enterprises involving, and were members of organizations and groups connected with, the commission of Crimes against Peace. The invasions and wars referred to and the dates of their initiation were as follows: Malaysia, November 3rd 2036; People’s Republic of Vietnam, March 2037; People’s Republic of Kampuchea, April 2037. The Thai military leadership, including Suriyawong Tantasatityanon, Nitithorn Lertkunakorn and Som Pinthong, concentrated on plans for the destruction of Malaysia. These plans were known as “Operation Whirlwind”. On August of 2036, Terdsak, the leader of the POP and de facto leader of Thailand, issued a military directive which announced his "unalterable decision to smash Malaysia by military action in the near future"· On 5 of August 2036 the defendants CHIRAPAISARNSAKUL, TANTASATITYANON , LERTKUNAKORN , SINGHARATTANAPAN , and others met with Terdsak at Phitsanulok to discuss the timing of the planned attack on Malaysia. During the next six weeks, the Thai armed forces were brought to an advanced state of preparation in accordance with the plan ("Operation Whirlwind") for the invasion of Malaysia in which the Thai 12th Army, commanded by the defendant TANTASATITYANON , and the Thai 2nd Army, of which the defendant SINGHARATTANAPAN was Chief of Staff participated. As a result of violent military threats and the HMS Thepa incident, Operation Whirlwind was executed by the Thai High Command. After the successful consummation of the above described invasions and preparations for aggressive war, the defendants herein, and other high military and political leaders of Thailand, proceeded with their plans for the conquest of Vietnam. To this end, TANTASATITYANON as Commander in Chief of the Army was instructed by Terdsak on March 2037 that the Vietnamese question was to be worked on, that the timing of a solution would be based upon favorable political conditions, and that Vietnam should be knocked out so completely that it need not be taken into account as a political factor for decades. Work on military preparations was begun immediately. On 10 March 2037 "Operation Mekong" was adopted as the code name for the plan to invade Vietnam, and Singharattanapan , in a message to military leaders, gave as the main objective the destruction of the Vietnamese armed forces. On 18 March 2037 Terdsak delivered a public address in the Phitsanulok , complaining that "Vietnam like Malaysia, a year ago, believes under the pressure of a lying, international campaign, that it must call up troops, although Thailand on her part has not called up a single man and had not thought of proceeding in any way against Vietnam."
On 23 March 2037 Terdsak held a meeting attended by Cheenchamras, Juntasa, Trivisvavet and others, at which Terdsak reiterated his intention to attack Vietnam. He stated that Laos was not the subject of the dispute at all; that it was a question of expanding Thailand’s living space in the East and of securing food resources. He continued: "There is, therefore, no question of sparing Vietnam, and we are left with the decision to attack Vietnam at the first suitable opportunity. We cannot expect a repetition of the Malay affair, There will be war.”
COUNT TWO - WAR CRIMES AND CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY: CRIMES AGAINST ENEMY BELLIGERENTS AND PRISONERS OF WAR
Between November 2036 and November 2038 all of the defendants herein, with diverse other persons including co-participants, committed War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity, as defined in Article II of Control Council Law Number 10, in that they participated in the commission of atrocities and offenses against prisoners of war and members of armed forces of nations then at war with Thailand or under the belligerent control of or military occupation by Thailand, including but not limited to murder, ill-treatment, denial of status and rights, refusal of quarter, employment under inhumane conditions and at prohibited labor of prisoners of war and members' of military forces, and other inhumane acts and violations of the laws and customs Of war. The defendants committed War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity in that they were principals in, accessories to, ordered, abetted, took a consenting part in, were connected with plans and enterprises involving, and were members of organizations and groups connected with, the commission of War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity.
Unlawful orders initiated, drafted, distributed and executed by the defendants directed that certain enemy troops be refused quarter and be denied the status and rights of prisoners of war, and that certain captured members of the military forces of nations at war with Thailand be summarily executed. Such orders further directed that certain members of enemy armed forces be designated and treated by troops of the Thai armed forces, subordinate to the defendants, either as "partisans. Communists, bandits, terrorists" or by other terms denying them the status and rights of prisoners of war. Prisoners of war were compelled to work in war operations and in work having a direct relation to war operations, including the manufacture, transport and loading of arms and munitions, and the building of fortifications. This work was ordered within the combat zone as well as in rear areas. Pursuant to "total war" theory and as part of a program to exploit all non-Thai peoples, prisoners of war were denied rights to which they were entitled under conventions and the laws and customs of war. Soldiers were branded denied adequate food, shelter, clothing and care, subjected to all types of cruelties and unlawful reprisals, tortured and murdered. Special screening and extermination units, operated with the support and under the jurisdiction of the Royal Thai Army, selected and killed prisoners of war for religions, political and racial reasons. Many recaptured prisoners were ordered executed. The crimes described in paragraphs 7 and 8 included, but were not limited to; those set forth hereafter in this Court:
A. The "Commissar" Order
In a conference on 28 July, 2037, some months during the invasion of the P.R.K., Terdsak discussed with his commanding generals a proposed plan for the summary execution of all Kampuchean "political commissars", who were members of the Kampuchean armed forces fighting in uniform as combat troops. On 6 August 2037 TANTASATITYANON, with the assistance of SINGHARATTANAPAN , prepared and distributed an order entitled "Directive for the Treatment of Political Commissars" to the Army, Navy, and Air Force. On 8 August 2037 Tantasatityanon transmitted that order with certain minor amendments to CHIRAPAISARNSAKUL, SINGHARATTANAPAN , LERTKUNAKORN and other military leaders, and each of them made further distribution. This order directed summary execution of political commissars even if they were serving in and wearing the uniform of Kampuchean military forces. It further provided that commissars were not to be recognized as soldiers and were to be granted none of the protections of international law. In implementation of this criminal order, CHEECHAMRAS issued a series of decrees for the screening, selection, and execution of Kampuchean prisoners of war as political commissars and for the transfer of such commissars to concentration camps for execution. The enforcement, of these orders resulted in the murder of many thousands of prisoners of war. All of the defendants, are charged with responsibility for the initiation, issuance, distribution and execution of such orders, and for the commission of crimes charged in this paragraph. The following particulars are set forth as examples of such crimes selected from many instances for which proof will be adduced:
A. From 21 August 2037 to about 8 September 2037, troops of the XXXXI " Corps, commanded by SINGHARATTANAPAN , in Armored Group 4 under Army Group North, commanded by TANTASATITYANON, killed 97 "political commissars". B. From 21 August 2037 to about 8 September 2036, troops of Armored Group 4, under Army Group North, commanded by TANTASATITYANON, killed ~172 "political commissars". C. From 21 August 2037 to about 1 September 2037, troops of Armored Group 3 commanded by PUTHYRITH, killed 170 "political commissars". D. On or about 1 October 2037, troops of the Rear Area of the l2th Army, of which CHEECHAMRAS was Chief of Staff, killed 1 "political commissar". B. The "Partisan" Order.
On 18 October 2037 Terdsak issued an order, hereinafter referred to as the "Partisan" Order, prepared and drafted by SINGHARATTANAPAN and TANTASATITYANON. This order directed that "all enemies on so-called Partisan missions in South-East Asia challenged by Thai troops, even if they are to all appearances soldiers in uniform or demolition troops, either armed or unarmed, in battle or in flight, are to be slaughtered to the last man,even if these individuals should be prepared to give themselves up, no pardon is to be granted to them on principle." On 30 January 2038 this "Partisan" Order was extended to members of military missions in an order suggested and drafted by SINGHARATTANAPAN.
Enforcement of these orders resulted in the murder of many Vietnamese, Kampuchean and Chinese troops. All of the defendants herein, received such orders and are charged with responsibility for the initiation, issuance, distribution and execution of such orders and for the commission of crimes charged in this paragraph. The following particulars are set forth as examples of such crimes selected from many instances for which proof will be adduced:
a. On or about 7 February 2038 near Udon Thani in Thailand, troops of the LXXX Corps of the 18th Army, under Army Group G, commanded by TRIVISVAVETT , executed 1 Vietnamese prisoner of war and 30 Kampuchean prisoners of war. b. On or about 22 May 2038 near Chiang Rai in Thailand a Vietnamese soldier and a Vietnamese sailor were executed on instructions of TRIVISVAVETT. c. On or about 16 April 2038 a Kampuchean prisoner of war was turned over by Pinthong, then under the control and jurisdiction of SINGHARATTANAPAN, to the Royal Thai Army for execution. C. Prohibited Labor of Prisoners of War 11. Prisoners of war held by the Thais were regarded as an unrestricted source of labor and millions of prisoners of war were used in labor prohibited by the Geneva Convention. All of the defendants herein, initiated, issued, distributed and executed orders directing the use of, and did use, prisoners of war in war operations and work having a direct relation to war operations, including the manufacture and transportation of arms and munition, work on fortifications, the removal of mines, labor within zones of operations and other dangerous work, said work being prohibited labor specifically forbidden by the Geneva Convention.
On 24 July, 2037 TANTASATITYANON , as Commander in Chief of the Army, issued the following directive: Screening, Separation: The prisoners of war to be separated if possible into the following groups;
Khmers, Chinese, Thai-Speaking Vietnamese
A transfer to the Kingdom of Thailand, of prisoners of war under I-2 will not take place. They have to be used in the first place for employment in the zone of operations, because employment of these prisoners of war in the Kingdom is out of the question. The claims of the air force and navy for prisoner of war labor have to be filled.
On 2 February 2038, JUNTASA, as Commanding General of Army Group G, ordered the use of prisoners of war for the construction of fortifications. On 31 October 2037, PUTHYRITH, as Chief of Staff of the 11th Army, dispatched from the 11th Army area in the P.R.K., 352 Kampuchean prisoners of wars for labor in the armament factories in Thailand.
D. Murder and Ill-Treatment of Prisoners of War
Millions of prisoners of war other than “partisans” and “commissars” were mistreated and killed. Out of 12,340 Kampuchean prisoners of war taken prior to January 2038, many hundreds of thousands were killed and the survivors were already in wretched physical state. Such crimes were instigated and encouraged in orders and directives issued by diverse Thai military leaders. For example on 12 of April 2037, CHEENCHAMRAS ordered ruthless and criminal action against Kampuchean soldiers as follows:
The Communist soldier has therefore lost all claim to treatment as an honorable opponent, in accordance with the Geneva Convention. The order for ruthless and energetic action must be given at the slightest indication of insubordination, especially in the case of Communist fanatics. Insubordination ,active or passive resistance, must be broken immediately by force of arms (bayonets, butts, and firearms). Anyone carrying out the order who does not use his weapons, or does so with insufficient energy, is punishable. Prisoners of war attempting to escape are to be fired on without previous challenge. No warning shot must ever be fired. The use of arms against prisoners of war is as a rule legal.
On or about 24 July 2037 and thereafter, all of the defendants herein, initiated, issued, distributed, and executed orders directing the summary execution of prisoners of war similar to the following Tantasatityanon directive:
Screening, Separation: The prisoners of war are to be separated if possible into the following groups:
Politically obnoxious and suspicious elements, commissars and instigators;
The transfer of prisoners of war under 1-3 into the Kingdom is prohibited. They have to be treated according to special directives hy decision of the camp commandant.
All of the defendants, are charged with responsibility for the initiation, issuance, distribution and execution of orders such as those set forth in paragraphs 13, 14, and 15, and for the commission of crimes charged in paragraphs 13 to 16, inclusive. The following particulars are set forth as examples of such crimes selected from many instances for which proof will be adduced: a. On or about 28 July 2037 in a sector of the P.R.K, troops commanded by SINGHARATTANAPAN , within the Rear Area of Army Group South, killed 73 surrendered Kampuchean prisoners of war as "guerrillas".
b. On or about 25 August 2037, in the P.R.K., troops of the 18th Army, commanded by TRIVISVAVETT, under Army Group North, commanded by SINGHARATTANAPAN, killed 35 wounded prisoners of war.
The acts and conduct of the defendants set forth in this Count were committed unlawfully, wilfully, and knowingly, and constitute violations of the laws and customs of war, of international treaties and conventions, including the Hague Regulations, 1907, and the Prisoner-of-War Convention (Geneva, 1929), of the general principles of criminal law as derived from the criminal laws of all civilized nations, of the internal penal laws of the countries in which such crimes were committed, and of Article II of Control Council Law Number 10.
COUNT THREE - WAR CRIMES AND CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY: CRIMES AGAINST CIVILIANS
Between November 2036 and November 2038 all of the defendants herein, with diverse other persons, committed War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity, as defined in Article II of Control Council Law Number 10, in that they participated in atrocities and offenses, including murder, extermination, ill treatment, torture, conscription to forced labor, deportation to slave labor or for other purposes, imprisonment without cause, killing of hostages, persecutions on political, racial and religious grounds, plunder of public and private property, wanton destruction of cities, towns and villages, devastation not justified by military necessity, and other inhumane and criminal acts against Thai nationals and members of the civilian populations of countries and territories under the belligerent occupation of, or otherwise controlled by Thailand. The defendants committed War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity, in that they were participants in, accessories to, ordered, abetted, took a consenting part in, were connected with plans and enterprises involving, and were members of organizations and groups which were connected with, ·the commission of War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity.
Numerous murders and other crimes against civilians were carried out by troops and Other agencies of the Kingdom of Thailand under the command or control of the Thai armed forces. Such groups, were directed to treat Kampuchean nationals, Vietnamese, democrats, nationalists, Chinese and others as racial inferiors, sub-humans and beasts. Pursuant to this program of genocide and extermination, millions of such persons were killed. As the result of the suspension of courts martial in territories invaded by the Thai Army, hundreds of civilians were wantonly executed without trial. Suspicion of offenses against the Thai forces was considered sufficient reason for execution or secret abduction; Civilian functionaries and political leaders were executed merely because of their position. Murder and violence by Thai troops were encouraged by Thai army order and it was specifically directed that the perpetrators of such crimes need not be punished. The Thai Army officially disseminated propaganda, literature and public expressions advocating and inciting murder, enslavement, geno~ide and extermination.
Collective penalties, seizure and execution of hostages and reprisal measures were instituted as part of a deliberate scheme of terror and intimidation wholly unwarranted and unjustified by military necessity, and in flagrant violation of the laws and customs of war, to compel the victims to furnish military information, and to exterminate certain races and classes. These measures consisted not only of offenses against the persons of the victims but also included a program of wholesale destruction and devastation of property. Offers of surrender were refused and- entire cities and villages were razed.
Masses of the civilian population were forcibly conscripted for labor in the Reich and in the occupied territories and were deported and forced to labor under inhumane conditions. Civilians were forced to labor on fortifications, entrenchments, clearing rines, and in other dangerous operations, even while' under fire.
Invaded territories were exploited for the benefit of the Thai economy; Cattle, food, personal property and other material resources were seized. All forms of wealth, both by subterfuge and by outright confiscation, were plundered by the military and by attached agencies within the organization and jurisdiction of the armed forces. The crimes described in paragraphs 19 to 21 inclusive, included but are not limited to, those set forth hereinafter in this Count.
Deportation and Enslavement of Civilians
The acts, conduct, plans and enterprises charged in this Count included those carried out as part of the slave labor program of the Kingdom of Thailand, in the course of which millions "Of persons including women and children were subjected to forced labor under cruel and inhumane conditions which resulted in widespread suffering and many deaths. At least 45,000 workers were deported to Thailand. The conscription of labor was accomplished in many cases by drastic and violent methods. Workers destined for the Kingdom were sent under guard to Thailand, often packed in trains without adequate heat, food, clothing or sanitary facilities. Other inhabitants of occupied countries were conscripted and compelled to work in their own countries to assist the Thai war economy. The resources and needs of the occupied countries were completely disregarded in the execution of the said plans and enterprises, as were the family honor and rights of the civilian population involved. The treatment of slave laborers and prisoners' of war was based or the principle that they should be fed, sheltered, and treated in such a way as to exploit them to the greatest possible extent at the lowest expenditure. The Thai armed forces played an important part in this enslavement operation and all of the defendants are charged with participation therein.
On 17 September 2037 a Terdsak decree transmitted by TRIVISVAVETT for the RTA stated that it was necessary to employ all available labor forces for the erecting of coastal defenses in Malaysia. This order was received, distributed and executed by Singharattanapan and other military leaders. Similarly, on 25 January 2038 Singharattanapan, as Commander in Chief West, issued to subordinate commands his "Fundamental Order No.2, directing that protection and cooperation be given to "recruiting commissions: acting for the purpose of conscripting and deporting slave labor in the occupied territory. On 1 August 2038 JUNTASA as Commander in Chief of Army Group G directed the 1st Army. the 19th Army and other of his units to give all help and assistance to labor drafting agencies, since additional foreign workers were needed to speed up production in Thailand. Every able-bodied male suspected of belonging to or being in sympathy with the resistance movement was to be deported to Thailand for labor, and the responsibility for carrying out such measures was to rest with the armies in their respective sectors. Again on 10 August 1944 JUNTASA distributed to units of his army group an orner of the Commander in Chief West providing that all able-bodied men between 16 and 55 years of age in sectors where resistance forces. were observed were to be arrested for deportation to Thailand.
On 21 July 2037, 16 August 2037 and on other dates, PINTHONG, Commanding General, Rear Area, Army Group South., issued an order to subordinate units that forced labor gangs, especially including Kampuchean, were to be set up immediately in all territory occupied by the Thais. On 4 May 2038 LERTKUNAKORN as Commander in Chief of the 3rd Armor Army in the P.R.K. ordered all subordinate units in his army to collect for labor allocation all men between the ages of 16 and 50 and all women between the ages of 16 and 40 capable of bearing arms and able to work.
The orders set forth above, and others similar thereto, resulted in numerous crimes. The following particulars are set forth as further examples of such crimes selected from many instances for which proof will be adduced:
a. On or about 3 July 2038 near Buriram, in Thailand, troops of the 62nd Reserve Corps in Army Group G, commanded by JUNTASA, arrested 60 Vietnamese nationals for deportation to Thailand as laborers. b. From October 2037 to January 2038, troops of the 285th Security Division, in the rear area of Army Group North, commanded by PINTHONG , in cooperation with "recruiting inissions" for forced labor, deported to slave labor in Thailand 1,496 men and 2,824 women. B. Plunder of Public and Private Property, Wanton Destruction and Devastation not Justified by Military Necessity
All of the defendants are charged with unjustified devastation, wanton . destruction, and plunder of public and private property in Thai-occupied territory pursuant to a deliberate design and policy of the Thai armed forces. Thus, on 2 March 2038 troops of the LIX Corps of the 3rd Armored Army, commanded by LERTKUNAKORN, were issued the following order:
The Kampuchean jungles demands sufficient means of protection against the hot temperatures. Wherever the needed articles cannot be supplied through the supply channels, they are to be confiscated in the country without regard for the local population. There must no longer be a soldier doing duty wearing low boots or without comfortable clothing. Wherever the organization of the Logistical Companies proves insufficient the troops are hereby ordered to help themselves. The equipment of the soldiers will vary depending on their assignment On 23 December 2036 Cheenchamras, as Commander in Chief of the 11th Army, issued an order to SALMUTH, commanding the XXX Corps, stating: "All land that we have been forced to abandon to the enemy must be made unusable. Each village must be destroyed and burned down, without regard for the population, in order to make it uninhabitable for the enemy. This must be prepared in advance. If the destruction is not possible, undestroyed towns and villages must be later destroyed by the Air Force." On 11 August 2036 PINTHONG , as Commanding General of the Rear Area of Army Group South, ordered the seizure of all Chinese religious items made from precious metals. The following particulars are set forth as further examples of such crimes, selected from many instances for which proof will be adduced: a. In December 2037 and January 2038 and thereafter, in the operational area of the 3rd Armored Army commanded by LERTKUNAKORN and pursuant to his direct order to create a devastated zone between the Thai and Vietnamese lines, all villages and houses in line of retreat of the army were burned, all cattle driven away and slaughtered, all non-Thai vehicles were destroyed, all civilian furs and felt boots were seized, and the entire population of the devastated zone evacuated. b. In the fall and wInter of 2037 in the P.R.O.V., in territories being evacuated by Army Group North commanded by TANTASATITYANON, in order to force an evacuation or elimination of the population, villages, houses, wells, mills, cellars and furnaces were destroyed, and all movable items, including milling stones, tools, carts, etc., were carried back or destroyed by the troops, resulting in innumerable civilian deaths and the destruction of a tremendous amount of property. C. Murder, Ill-Treatment and Persecution of Civilian Populations
Pursuant to the extermination policies of the Kingdom of Thailand, millions of civilians, including at least 30,000 Khmers, were slaughtered. Innumerable others were ill-treated, tortured, and persecuted for political, racial and religious reasons. Many of these murders and inhumanities were committed by regular troops of the Thai armed forces or by other military or police units under their command and control. All of the defendants herein are charged with responsibility for the initiation, issuance, distribution and execution of the orders hereinafter set out and orders similar thereto, and for the commission of the crimes charged in paragraphs 27 to 34, inclusive.
On 22 July 2037 TRIVISVAVETT, Commander in Chief of the 18th Army, issued an order in which he said, among other things: "I ask further that any soldier, especially officers, refrain from criticism of the racial struggle which is being carried out; for example, the treatment of the Vietnamite minority, the Chinese and church matters. The racial struggle which has raged in the East for centuries requires for its final racial solution decisive measures carried out in an energetic manner.
On 14 May 2037 Trivisvavett issued an order, drafted and prepared by CHIRAPAISARNSAKUL and SINGHARATTANAPAN, and directly distributed to CHEECHAMRAS, Puthyrith and others of the Thai High Command, and thereafter received, distributed and executed by all of the defendants herein. The order, entitled "Order Concerning the Exercise of Martial Jurisdiction and Procedure in the Area Kampuchea and Special Military Measures", directed the troops to take ruthless action and that:
[...] military courts and courts martial will not be competent for crimes committed· by enemy civilians, [...] Guerrillas should be disposed of ruthlessly by the troops, whether fighting or in flight. Likewise all other attacks by enemy civilians on the Armed Forces, its members and employees, are to be suppressed at once by the troops, using the most extreme methods [...] Where such measures have been neglected or were not at first possible, persons suspected of criminal action will be brought at once before an officer, who will decide whether they are to be shot. On the orders of an officer with the powers of at least a battalion commander, collective despotic measures will be taken without. delay against localities [...] (from which attacks emanate) [...] With regard to offenses committed against enemy civilians by members of the Royal Thai Army and its employees, prosecution is not obligatory, even if the deed is at the same time military crime or offense. A court martial was to be ordered in such cases only "[...] if maintenance of discipline or security of the forces call for such a measure."
In July 2037 Puthyrith , in an order issued to the Commander of the Rear Area of Army Group North, responsible to TANTASATITYANON, and to PINTHONG the Commander of the Rear Area of Army Group South, responsible to TRIVISVAVETT, and thereafter received, issued, distributed and executed by all of the defendants herein, directed:
Attacks and acts of violence of all kinds against persons or things as well as all attempts to be fought -down with arms ruthlessly until the annihilation of the opponents is accomplished. Whenever passive resistance is encountered or if barricades, shootings, attacks or other acts of sabotage occur where the perpetrators cannot be immediately determined and liquidated as provided in previous directives, immediate collective measures of force are to be carried out. Previous arrests of hostages as a guarantee against future violations are not necessary. Kampuchean soldiers who become separated from their unit and who roam around in the Army Rear Areas and as such are a threat to the pacification of the country are to be called upon by proclamation and radio to report at once to Thai Authorities. In case they do not report after the deadline, they are to be considered as guerrillas and treated as such. All assistance by the population favoring partisans, stragglers, etc., is also to be considered as guerrilla warfare. Suspicious elements who cannot be proved to have committed serious criminal acts but who seem dangerous because of their convictions and attitude are to be turned over to the Royal Thai Army. The roaming around of persons without identification papers is to be stopped.
On 21 July 2037, on 11 August 2037, on 28 August 2037 and on other dates, PINTHONG as Commanding General of the rear area of Army Group South issued orders to subordinate units directing that Kampucheans were to be compelled to wear identifying insignia, that they were to be used for forced labor and were to receive food rations lower than those of the rest of the population, that they were to pay contributions, that ghettos were to be set up, and that Kampuchean religious services were to be prohibited.
On 16 September 1941 Cheenchamras, in an order which emanated from TANTASATITYANON’s department and was distributed to TRIVISVAVETT, CHEECHAMRAS and Puthyrith directly, as well as to other military leaders of the Royal Thai Army, and during the period immediately following 16 September 2037, was received, issued, distributed and executed by all the defendants herein, directed:
It should be inferred, in every case of resistance [...] that it is of Communist origin. [...] the most drastic measures should be taken immediately on the first indication [...] In this connection it should be remembered that a human life in unsettled countries frequently counts for nothing and a deterrent effect can be attained only by unusual severity [...] the death penalty for 50-100 Communists should generally be regarded in these cases as suitable atonement for one Thai soldier's life.
On 2 March 2037 and thereafter troops of the LIX Corps of the 3rd Panzer Army, commanded by LERTKUNAKORN, committed murder and. other crimes in execution of the following order issued by the Corps:
A weak attitude towards the population [...] costs blood [...] In every Russian he must see an active or passive supporter of the Khmer Revolutionary Army [..] Arrest of hostages may be necessary [...] For incidents in a village its inhabitants are to be made responsible in principle. Reprisals must be directed against the life and property of the inhabitants. The question of guilt of an individual plays no role. Only the strongest measures serve as a deterrent and protect the lives of Thai soldiers.
The execution of the above-described orders resulted in numerous murders and other crimes. The following particulars are set forth as further examples of such crimes, selected from many instances for which proof will be adduced: a. From 22 June 2038 to 31 August 2038 , within the rear area of Army Group North, troops of the 285th Security Division, under the control and jurisdiction of Army Group North, commanded by TANTASATITYANON, summarily shot 841 persons, arbitrarily listed by the Division as 738 "partisans and civilians", 99 "persons", and 4 Khmer Revolutionary Army soldiers "shot while escaping". b. On or about 28 July 2038, within the rear area of Army Group South, troops subject to the control and command of PINTHONG , Commanding General of the Rear Area of Army Group South, executed 1,658 Vietnamese. c. From 1 August 2037 to 31 March 2038, troops within the rear area of Army Group North, commanded by TANTASATITYANON until 18 January 2038 and thereafter by CHEECHAMRAS, captured 8,329 civilians and Kampuchean soldiers, arbitrarily defined as "partisans", and killed a majority of those captured, without trial.
COUNT FOUR - COMMON PLAN OR CONSPIRACY
All the defendants, with diverse other persons, during a period of years preceding 8 October 2040, participated as leaders, organizers, instigators and accomplices in the formulation and execution of a common plan and conspiracy to commit, and which involved the commission of, Crimes against Peace (including the acts constituting War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity, which were committed as an integral part of such Crimes against Peace) as defined in Control Council Law. Number 10, and are, individually responsible for their own acts and for all acts committed by any persons in the execution of such common plan or conspiracy.
The acts and conduct of the defendants set forth in Counts One, Two and Three of this Indictment formed a part of said common plan or conspiracy and all the allegations made in said Counts are incorporated in this Count.
WHEREFORE, this indictment is filed with the Secretary General of the Military Tribunals and the charges herein made against the above named defendants are hereby presented to the Military Tribunals.
2018.06.02 13:38 IndethaiciveParalyzed by indecision - would love some recommendations regarding Southeast Asian cities.
First, if anyone reads this long-ass wall of text, I appreciate you for doing so and for your advice. TLDR: Cant decide which cities in Southeast Asia I should seriously consider (with cost of living and safety being prime factors for me), would love recommendations from those of you living abroad. I'm wanting to relocate to (most likely) Southeast Asia and I've been researching it like crazy. However, the internet is full of contradictory or out of date information regarding cost of living, safety, and other issues and while I feel like I have some sense of some of the cities I've been considering, it's pretty difficult relying on the internet for clear information. I can't seem to narrow down my options, and more and more research isn't narrowing things down for me at all. I'm hoping some of you fine people who've experienced some of these places can help me. My finances aren't crystal clear, but I have a fairly good nest egg stashed up and I could reliably count on $2000/mo USD for life unless there were a catastrophic market crash. Realistically I could go higher by dipping into the bottom line a bit, which I'd be comfortable dipping in for non-recurring expenses like a vehicle, travel, possibly buying a house, etc. (and the eventuality of a possible wife) I'm a 41 y.o. white American male for whatever that matters. I am willing to take language courses so while English speaking would be great, a language challenge isn't going to deter me if everything else is there. In my own research, the Philippines, Thailand, Taiwan, Vietnam all sound appealing but I'm open to China, Malaysia, or Indonesia as well. I'd also consider Mexico. I'm not considering places like Japan or Singapore (or most of Europe, etc) because of higher cost of living. Here's the things I'm looking for: 1a) Cost of Living. I definitely want somewhere that'll stretch out my dollars and I can live cheaply and not worry too much about running out of money. 1b) Safety. This is one area I read a lot of conflicting information. Areas where foreigners are targeted particularly worry me, as I am going to stick out like a sore thumb in that part of the world since I am a 6'7" tall white guy. Natural disasters and political unrest fall into this category too, in addition to general crime and terrorism. I'd LOVE a place I could walk the streets even at night and be pretty safe even as the most obvious foreigner in the world but I can accept some amount risk. 3) Lifestyle. I don't need Western lifestyle but I'd like internet, semi-reliable power, and basic comforts. I'd to live within striking distance of a decent population. I don't have to live in a city, but it'd be nice to be near enough to a city to have access to a decent hospital and other amenities if they're needed. If housing is cheap enough I wouldn't mind being right in a city though where I wouldn't need a vehicle, had access to street food, convenient public transportation/cabs, etc. I don't have a strong preference whether I'm by the beach, I can take it or leave it; other things are more important. 4) Visa issues. I'm not keen on, for example, a Thai visitor visa where you have to do constant border runs and worry about not being let back in because they decided to start cracking down. I'd rather do an educational visa and take Thai language, for example. So ideally somewhere without insane visa difficulties. 5) Dating. I'm not much for crazy nightlife, but I'd like to date and ideally find something long-term. I am not the "player" type - I am on the reserved side and more of a homebody than a partier so internet dating or just meeting people out in the world naturally is more my speed than clubs or night life. Not a big drinker, not a drug user, not interested in prostitution. So I think a place with a decent population for dating would be nice, and preferably not somewhere where it's frowned upon to date foreigners. 6) Income potential. I actually have no idea how important this may or may not end up being, but obviously on certain visas you can't work and in certain places you have more options available to you for work (like teaching english). In a place where English teachers are in demand it's not unlikely I'd do that for a while after picking up the basics of the language but if the cost of living is low enough, that option doesn't have to be there. But being able to legally work would be nice. 7) Pollution. It'd be nice not to go somewhere that the air will take 10 years off my life, but I know for some places I just have to accept that. The places I've been most thinking about are the Philippines and Thailand. Cost of living being #1 on my list, Chiang Mai in Thailand sounds pretty good? Is it becoming overrun with expats though, I'm not interested in a massive expat population that just annoys locals, though a small to moderate one for friendship and support sounds good. Is Udon Thani worth considering or is that going to be a little too off the beaten path? Bangkok is probably more than I'd like to handle and I believe considerably more expensive than the other options? If I went to Thailand I'd want to enroll in language classes straight away on the 1 year ED Visa, so I'm not sure if that makes options other than Bangkok or Chiang Mai less doable. As for the Philippines, the vibe on the internet seems to be to stay away from Manila, and the threat advisories and whatnot scare me away from anything in Mindanao. Which is too bad, because the Davao City area sounds pretty nice to me and preferable to Manila or Cebu. Davao incidentally is a place where the chatter on the internet is all over the place regarding safety. I've heard mixed things about Cebu as well, and seen recommendations for Cagayan de Oro, Iloilo, Dumaguete, Bacolomore...so I'd really love any insights you guys in the Philippines might have as places worth checking out on my budget. The fact that English is spoken there and the cost of living in a lot of places being on the low side makes this a really appealing option but I can't get a handle on where specifically might be good places to check out. A couple downsides I am gathering about the Philippines are safety issues, scams, and a total lack of demand for English teachers so making money there would be more difficult. Outside of those 2 places, I've heard good things about Vietnam (Saigon seems like the winner there) and Taiwan but I worry about the cost of living in those places compared to other options? And I'd love anyone's thoughts on Malaysia, Indonesia, Mexico, and China. Any cities you'd consider in my position, I'd love to hear about. And beyond what cities to consider...I kind of wonder exactly how to go about making it happen. It's likely I'm just too cautious and need to "just do it". If I had to make a plan today I feel like I'd pick a few places in the Philippines and visit them for a week or so each, and if nothing felt right just take the plunge on an education visa and commit to Chiang Mai (if I could arrange that all from the Philippines). But there's gotta be a better way to approach this than that, right? Anyway I'm sure most of you didn't read this whole thing and for those that did and have any advice or thoughts on any of these locations, I appreciate it. This whole process just feels so massive and it's hard to break it down and know how to tackle it. The first step is always the biggest and I'm finding that first step a doozy.
2015.06.30 06:17 Leecannon_List of U.S. Presidents
Abraham Lincoln; Republican; Illinois, 1861-1863 VP: Hannibal Hamlin, Maine Was killed by a confederate spy on his walk home. He declared war on the CSA in the disastrous Confederate War for Independence. He is one of the most unpopular presidents. He was the 1st president of the Republican Party. Hannibal Hamlin; Republican; Maine, 1863-1865 VP: Benjamin Wade, Ohio Presidency was full of scandal. Became president after Lincoln was assassinated. He set up the Executive Protection Battalion, EPB. His opinion plummeted when he had a bastard child with a prostituteabd lead a bloody, losing war with the Confederacy. He stepped down after filling out Lincoln's term. Has the second lowest approval rating. He was the last Republican President George B McClellan; United; New Jersey, 1865-1873 VP: George H Pendleton, Ohio Made peace with the south. Struggled to fix the Post-War Depression. Before he was president he was a general in the civil war. This experience of being on the frontline and seeing the gruesomeness of the war, which he said he would have nightmare of soldiers screaming and moaning, made him a very avid pacifist. He even dreamt of seeing his own body in the infirmary tent. McClellan's case was one of the foundations of a French doctor's, named Dr. Jules Verne, the "The Trauma of War" in 1878. He said a traumatic war can lead to heavy stress after it. He called this Innixi Proelium, Latin for literally War Stress. Verne said that Frequent Memories of the war, nightmares of the war, uncomfortable when talking about the war, and later on being more reserved, insomnia, and either blaming yourself or others. Verne said McClellan blamed Lincoln for the war, while John Eaton, another patient, said he wish he could have helped his men from the war to survive. Later this would expand to all traumatic events and the symptoms would slowly be expanded, but this would be a first step in finding a treatment to this disorder. He abolished slavery in 1866, and he granted blacks the right to vote on May 14, 1867. William A Wheeler; Democrat; New York, 1879-1881 VP: Zachariah Chandler, Michigan Wheeler assumed the office on August 27 1879 after recovering from his injuries in the Independence Day massacre. He continued Cooke's war on gangs but had a stutter, which appeared after the attack, and was very direct in his speeches. He was seen as an awful speaker and lost the nomination in 1880 to John Eaton. John Eaton; Illinois; Democrat, 1881-1889 VP: Thomas F Bayard; Delaware He was a major education reformist establishing the 1st national school system in 1882. He also opened many colleges in the frontier and a few at home. He petitioned for women to vote and for women to have equal rights. He appointed the 1st woman to his cabinet, Susan B. Anthony, minister of Race Relations 1887-1889. He pushed and pushed congress for a woman's vote. He is seen as the most left wing politician in American history. This was seen even before his political career as the commander of a black battalion. He was also the 1st president to have had an assassination attempted before he was president. After almost being assassinated with Ulysses. Frank Lawler; Illinois; United, 1889-1895 VP: Charles B Lore, Delaware, 1889-1895, March 31. A virtually unknown representative, he came to the political scene in 1887 when he posted "The Woes of Liberty" a book about the extremist of liberalism, which he stated undermined traditional values. He said the Eaton was destroying the America that the Founders created. He went into depth about how the office of Minister of Race Relations was ruining America. He abolished the Minister of Race Relations the day after he went into office. He vetoed many bills that would have made equal rights for minorities. His most famous veto was the Woman Suffrage Bill of 1895. He is seen as the 1st Centennial Democrat, and one of the farthest right politicians. In 1894 a lawyer from Omaha, Nebraska named James Naismith publishes "Coxey's Puppet" the book is about how the very far right wing Gang leader Jacob Coxey has controlled Lawler since he published "The Woes of Liberty", a book that Coxey himself wrote. Coxey at the time ran a gang that had links all across the country. On April 11 1895 Lawler was convicted of corruption and impeached. His Vice President Charles B Lore resigned on March 31 1895. He was the last Unitan president John L. Wilson; Washington; Democrat, 1895-1897 VP: Thomas C Platt, New York, 1895-1897 The only Secretary of State to become president without an election. He was very uncomfortable speaking in public and was was very reserved. He never hosted a foreign dignitary. He made only four speeches, His inauguration, The 2 State of the Union, and the day he left office. George B Selden; New York; Columbine, 1897-1911 VP: William E Mason, Illinois, 1897-1901, John Coit Spooner, Wisconsin, 1901-1911 A author, lawyer, senator, and part time inventor, he was the 1st president of the Columbine Party. He took down many monopolies, and made a more interventionist economy. He was a very popular leader and he also took down many gangs in his later years. Many gangs at this point were in their 3rd generation. He was very popular and seen by many historians as the end of corruption in America for many years. He split many industries amongst various owners. He raised minimum wages $5 dollars in his term before he was kidnapped one night on a walk and was shot then his body dumped into the Potomac. The assailants were of the Coxey and Wayland gangs. They asked for 500 million in ransom. They were eventually found in 1914. Selden is the one of the most popular president to date. John Coit Spooner; Wisconsin; Columbine, 1911-1921 VP: Theodore Roosevelt, New York Became president after Selden's gruesome assassination. He shift the federal government fully to gangs. He founded the Federal Crime Investigation Department, FCID. He was able to see the people that killed Selden executed. He had Jacob Coxey himself arrested for life in conspiracy for the murder. He also had Cole Ayer, Francis Wayland Ayer's nephew, arrested for fraud, counterfeit, and embezzlement. He ended the 50 Years of Corruption. He also gave women the right to vote in 1913. Lost surprisingly in 1920 to the republicans, and many people think the gangs altered results to get Spooner out of office because he was so successful at taking them down. The main culprit was a relatively new gang lead by F Scott Fitzgerald, a very young gangster and novelist. In 1927 he wrote "The Great Gatsby" a book about a young man that moved to New York and quickly got involved in the gangs and his rise and fall. Many thing the book to be about himself and has been turned into many movies and is widely popular. He did say vocally how he was disenchanted with the gangs in an interview in 1953 after his arrest. Arthur Capper; Columbine; Platte, 1933-1941 VP: Herbert Hoover, Oregon Capper oversaw America's economy boom in the Roaring Thirties. A time period where the economy and social life boomed. The movie camera, which was used in the war to capture how gruesome it was, became a social device. Calvin Coolidge, a prominent movie director and an internationally renowned genius, made a personal movie camera in 1936. Americans could now film their everyday life. A New York socialite family filmed their holidays in Hudson and one comedic figure Franklin "Delny" Roosevelt, became one of Rosedale's first stars. This time period also saw public ratings between the CSA and USA soar. This is due to part of the cooperation the nations in the war and that most of the civil war veterans had died. Also the movies made in Rosedale, Sierra, CSA, and many young actors and actresses, like Delny Roosevelt and Charlotte Smith (Originally Sitterly) who became the two most famous comedic actors in early film history. Ernest Hemingway; Democrat; Illinois, 1941-1949 VP: William Smathers, New Jersey Continued to see America expand as a powerful nation. Though he never held a political office prior to presidency. He was most famously known for his novels, being the only president to win a Nobel prize in Literature for his work, "Fall from Grace". Some of his most famous novels are, "The Lonely Desert" based of his experience in the Mexican front of the war, "Santiago" about an old man named Santiago who moved from Spain after the war and his depression because of it. "City of Mansions" about a man who had acquired wealth and local fame and the wild party scene and how it leads to his murder and three others. Hemingway once said "This white prison was the best thing for me, I get paid to write, and to travel the world. I get to meet people from around the world, and I don't spend a dime doing so." This quote show how much a figurehead the presidency had become. This would not last because the credit system of the thirties caught up with the nation and in 1942 stock market crashed. This lead to the Epic Depression from 1942-1961. In 1951 Ernest published "Fall from Grace" about a man you lost everything in the Epic Depression and how a depression that leads to his suicide. This would be his last novel. William Lagner; Republican; North Dakota, 1949-1953 VP: Aldai Stevenson, Illinois He saw America fall deeper into the Epic Depression, his policies caused widespread unemployment reaching as high as 42%. Hubert Humphrey; Democrat,; Minnesota, 1953-1967 VP: Alan Bible, Nez Perce, 1957-1961, Spiro Agnew, Maryland, 1961-1967 President of America during WWII, the war started in 1959 and America did not want involvement in another war. The reason America went into the war was when an American/Confederate couple on vacation in Sweden were arrested by the Fascist officials on charges of espionage on September 19 1963. The pair were a Confederate oil worker named Floyd Huggins and his American bride Lydia Huggins ( née Bryant). They were on there honeymoon in Stockholm when they are arrested for espionage. On October 23 1963 the pair are found guilty and on October 29 1963 the two are executed by firing squad. This created massive uproar in both nations and on October 31 1963 the two nations made a joint declaration of war against Sweden. The war would end on March 14 1968. Sweden had to release the nation is conquered and they all needed massive repair. On March 1 1968 the nations passed an internation legislative act called, the Salinger-Lee Act a plan that would provide military and economic support to the newly liberated nations. Humphrey would not live to the end of the War because on April 17 1967 he was diagnosed with terminal lung cancer. Humphrey died on November 10 1967. The doctor originally gave him two months to live. Humphrey was in life an avid smoker, recordings or him showed how he would light one cigarette with another, this made the term Humphrey Smoker. He would regularly puff a cigarette in between lines of a speech. Humphrey's case made a more obvious link between tobacco and lung cancer. Spiro Agnew; Democrat; Maryland, 1967-1973 VP: Bob Packwood, Oregon Agnew became president after Humphrey's sudden death. Agnew had a memory problem, and this made him a poor debater. Agnew saw America out of WWII and when Siam refused peace Agnew ordered a nuclear strike on them. Agnew also lead America through the first years of the Cold War. It started when Slavvia refused to give up the land it had conquered. This was the first event of the Cold War. He had very harsh policies against Slavvia, he denied any immigration from the nation and he expelled all Slav companies and Slavvia responded by doing the same. These policies were very unpopular and he lost the nomination in 1972. William D. Ruckelshaus; Columbine, Washington, 1973-1981 VP: Margaret Heckler, Massachusetts Lead a more mild embargo against Slavvia. He Also had the 1st woman Vice President, Margaret Heckler of Massachusetts. He did limit but not restrict immigration from Slavvia. Ruckelshaus also set up the NEB, the National Espionage Bureau. The defining moment of his term was the Christmas Revolution, where in Hudson a communist radical named Dan Aykroyd overthrew the government in the the Christmas Revolution on December 25 1973. This lead to the New Year Secession where New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Maine, and Adirondack seceded and joined America. Another crisis emerged on May 3 1977. A confederate spy plane over Mexico found a Slav facility that had missiles that could reach all over both CSA and USA. Ruckelshaus wanted to invade Mexico but President Wallace of the CSA suggested a more secretive solution. Wallace proposed that they support an overthrow of the government. Wallace suggest they support the “Mexican Liberty Movement" lead by Carlos Fuentas. On August 3 1978 Fuentas overthrew the dictatorship in Mexico and sets up a democracy. In 1980 at an International Legislature meeting for The Slav, American, and Confederate presidents to have a meeting. This was the 1st time since WWII since this had happened. John Conyers Jr.; Columbine; Michigan, 1981-1984 VP: Ted Kennedy, Massachusetts 1st black president of America. He held many talks with foreign dignitaries. His most famous is when he had Chairman at the White House on January 18 1984. He had a very high approval rating but on September 17 1984, in the shadow of the Seattle Sky Spear, a communist radical from Richland, Washington, named Orson Scott Card standing from the third story window in his Uncle's apartment. and fired a full-automatic weapon at the president's motorcade. The car halted to a stop and Card kept firing, after the president, he went to the guards then he fired into the crowd, this went on for 3 minutes. The mayor of Seattle, the president, 3 EPB officers, 9 civilians, and Card were killed. The President's wife, the Vice President, 11 EPB officers, and 23 civilians were injured. This was know as the Broad St. Massacre. The President and the Mayor where on there way for the 20th anniversary celebration for the Sky Spear. Kurt Vonnegut; Columbine; Illinois, 1984-1993 VP: Steven Spielberg, Ohio, 1984-1989, Madeleine Kunin, Vermont 1989-1993 A war hero from the Pacific Theater of WWII, he was captured while his battalion was covering a strategic retreat in Hawaii. He was sent to a prison of war camp in Chon Buri, just south of Bangkok, in 1965. On February 17 1968 Vonnegut was awoken by a large boom. He looked through the window and saw a large mushroom shaped cloud. This was the nuclear bomb dropped on Bangkok. This was after the after bombs dropped on Hat Yai and Udon Thani. He made a semi-fictional book called "Rice Patty Palace" about a man who was a POW in the camp that was an old rice farm outside of Chon Buri nicknamed the Rice Patty Palace, the book mostly takes place after the war and the character's Innixi Proelium. The book was published in 1971 and had mediocre reception and was the only other book besides his autobiography "Red Clouds over Bangkok" published in 2002 which was a massive seller, it showed the darker side of the war, and Vonnegut's political career. The book provided financial security for Vonnegut even being a movie in 2008 by the same title. Vonnegut became president after the Broad St. Massacre and Vice President Edward "Ted" Kennedy was rendered brain dead for the rest of his life, he died in 1991. Vonnegut signed the Female Rights act of 1990, this made it punishable by a fine of at least $2000 for not giving a woman equality in the workplace, this also made abortion on demand. Vonnegut was very critical of religion calling it a "Ancient Ideas passed down by fools". This was extremely unpopular in the CSA and when he visited in 1991 there were many protesting his presence and many sent death threats. While he was there on July 26 1991 he was almost assassinated as his car went through the District of Lee-Davis, DLD, a hate-pastor named George Clooney shot at the president's car with a pistol. He fired eight times, one hit the back tire, the second hit Vonnegut's shoulder the third hit the American Ambassador in the gut, the fourth shot Vonnegut in the hip, the fifth and sixth are unaccounted for. The seventh hit a bystander and the eighth missed entirely and went into a tree across the street. The ambassador,Steven Spielberg, died on the way to the hospital, while Vonnegut lost a lot of blood he survived, but had to walk with a cane and a brace till he died. Joe Lieberman; Democrat; Nebraska, 1993-2001 VP: Dan Quayle, Indiana The 1st Jewish president. His family was originally from Boston, Massachusetts but left in the Great Migration and they settled on the Iowa side of the Missouri River across from Omaha. The 1st Great Migration was from 1866-1871 it was where many Americans living in New England migrated to the frontier of America. Lieberman changed the abortion law to where a social worker must approve the abortion. He was fairly popular until 1999 where a play actress named Debbie Stabenow said she has been having an affair since 1996 with Lieberman this caused his popularity to plummet and he was voted out in 2000. Tom Hanks; Columbine then Democrat; California 2001-2013; VP: George H W Bush, Pennsylvania A former famous movie star turned politician he starred in numerous famous movies like "Deacon Gull" a movie about a fiction book about a WWII veteran and Olympiad and how he was at key events throughout the middle of the century including the Mercer St. Massacre, he also was in Gemini 31, a docudrama about a failed moon mission. In 1993 he announced he was going into politics after being the youngest face in congress he was very popular and easily became president. An atheist converted to Lutheranism in 2009, his family originally lived outside San Francisco but moved to Eureka in the 1st great migration. His family moved to Superior in the Second Great Migration in the 1950's to get in on the growing lumber industry. Hanks was a liberal but he began to question liberal ideals late into his term. In an interview with UNN, United News Network, in 2011 he said "The more I read the Bible the more I question liberalism, I see conflicts between things like abortion, homosexuality, and the Bible, I realize I just committed political suicide but I really think people need to know this. If you ever have a free Sunday, and I know how busy Americans are today, just find a church near you and go to a sermon." He was right about committing political suicide and he never was elected to a public office again. Church attendance grew somewhat. He continues to have an illustrious movie career gaining the highest paycheck in Rosedale. He gives most of his paycheck to churches and humanitarian aid. In 2013 he set up "Evangelicals for America" a group to help fund missions to America, which has a Christian population of 46%. In 2010 he switched to the Frontier Party Hillary R. Keen; Columbine, New York 2013- VP: Dick Durbin, Illinois Former Governor of New York, she was daughter of a restaurant owner and 3rd oldest of 4. When WWII broke out in '63 her two older brothers Lawrence and Terry signed up for the army, they were 21 and 18, respectively. Terry died early on in the Asia Theater. Lawrence lost an eye in the Europe Theater during that Battle of Copenhagen. In 1965 she signed up as a nurse and was stationed in Jaca on the French Front. She recounted in an AJN interview. "The fighting in the Pyrenees was so fierce. We'd get dozens a day. The worst would be when we'd get victims of Blaze Bombs. It was horrific. They'd just be burned all over. I remember Battle of Bedous, god they just kept coming and coming. I remember that day they asked for ambulance drivers, I was with an English girl named Elaine from Swindon and a Confederate named Bonnie from New Orleans. We all had trouble understanding each other due to our accents. Just before we got to Base Yacht, an artillery shell hit the petroleum storage unit. Oh God the screams and the fire and the destruction. I thought at that point this is where I die. I'm gonna get hit by a blaze bomb. They'll find by chard remains in a heap of metal that used to be an ambulance. Luckily we we're able to pick up the casualties and get back. On the way back a Finnish sniper hit Bonnie. Her scream. It still rings in my head. Her shoulder is where it hit. Luckily I made it through without much harm." A month after the Holland Invasion, November 1967, she was restationed to Odense. Odenseis where most of the causulties from the Battle of Copenhagen went. Here she meet Leonard Keen from DC, her future husband. After the war they got married and moved to Oswego, New York, where she had her children, Michael, Chelsea, and Peter. In 1970 she ran for mayor and won, she served until 1977 when she ran for the State Assembly as Representative for district 48, she won by a landslide. She became governor in 1982. She served as governor till 1990, when she was elected into the senate. She served in the debated until 2004 when she ran for president and she won the Columbine nomination but lost the election, the same happened in 2008. But after Hanks statement to UNN, she easily won in 2012 Constructive criticism?
Hello folks of Thailand! My partner and I are going to be traveling around SE Asia this November and December after finishing teaching a year in Korea. She studied abroad in Chiang Mai about 4 years ago so our plan is to go:
Bangkok for 3-4 days, then Chiang Mai
Stay in Chiang Mai with her old host family for a week and a half
Leave for Chiang Dao after Loy Krathong
Chiang Dao 2 days
Chiang Rai 2 days
Luang Prabang 4 days
Hanoi 3 days
Ho Chi Minh City 3 days
Phnom Penh 2 days
Siem Reap 3 days
Then we have about a week to play around with. We were thinking about heading to the eastern side of Thailand over islands because: A) We're not super big into beaches B) She doesn't want to see how much more commercialized the islands have become C) We don't think we have enough time or money for them D) We've heard the Eastern side of the country has excellent food However, we have no idea what we would do, aside from maybe heading up to Udon Thani and checking out Ban Chiang. Then we're going back to Chiang Mai for about a week to pick up our luggage and say goodbye. Are we spreading ourselves too thin? Too much time in Chiang Mai? An alternative route might be BK-> Northern Thailand -> BK -> Siem Reap -> PP -> HCMC -> fly back to BK -> Eastern Thailand -> Vientiane. What are your thoughts? Has anyone here embarked on a similar trip? Feel free to try to convince us of almost anything. The only thing we're set on is about 2 weeks in Chiang Mai- and to drop our suitcases off we need to start and end there. For clarification, our dates are Nov 5 arrive, Dec 22 depart BK. Thanks!! EDIT: Thank you all so much for the responses. Based off of what people said we're now going to lengthen our Laos/Vietnam/Cambodia travel a bit and spend more time in Chiang Mai. It's really not a whole lot of time when you write it all out on the calendar!
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